tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6485618689828715147.post1251061124067020743..comments2023-06-23T19:21:52.908+03:00Comments on Trini lost in Finland: The old Finnish work ethicDanielletrinihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07563042859865543954noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6485618689828715147.post-46177962646520268642013-03-31T21:49:00.641+03:002013-03-31T21:49:00.641+03:00It has now occurred to me that maybe the Finns can...It has now occurred to me that maybe the Finns cannot handle having hired help because I have observed several (not all) Finns while on vacation in Tallin treating the serving staff at restaurants and bars like their servants. They were quite rude and seem to look down on them although they are their Finno brothers. Of course these people were very drunk. But I have always found that people's true nature shine true when they are drunk so I don't consider drunkenness an excuse. Danielletrinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07563042859865543954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6485618689828715147.post-15707635609315899232013-03-31T21:48:43.283+03:002013-03-31T21:48:43.283+03:00It has now occurred to me that maybe the Finns can...It has now occurred to me that maybe the Finns cannot handle having hired help because I have observed several (not all) Finns while on vacation in Tallin treating the serving staff at restaurants and bars like their servants. They were quite rude and seem to look down on them although they are their Finno brothers. Of course these people were very drunk. But I have always found that people's true nature shine true when they are drunk so I don't consider drunkenness an excuse. Danielletrinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07563042859865543954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6485618689828715147.post-86437762950619226512013-03-17T20:42:17.306+02:002013-03-17T20:42:17.306+02:00Dear Anonymous,
I have myself observed all that y...Dear Anonymous, <br />I have myself observed all that you said. That the Finnish work ethic dictates you do all your work yourself or be considered lazy or rising above your station and taking advantage of the poor. But what people do not consider is that traditionally people lived in large extended families who divided the labour. Now we have nuclear families with one woman at home alone taking care of small children, cooking and cleaning. So it isn't as simple as it sounds to "do your work yourself". Anyway as a mamut I can be excused for not following the rules as we are considered strange and never behave as normal people should ; )Danielletrinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07563042859865543954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6485618689828715147.post-40145179239329825142013-03-11T00:07:47.772+02:002013-03-11T00:07:47.772+02:00It's the Lutheran work ethics of "he who ...It's the Lutheran work ethics of "he who does not work shall not eat" and "idle hands are devils hands" etc.<br />And the other is that for a Finn the very thought of "rising above your station" without proper "authorisation" is something alien.<br />So hiring someone to do "your work for you" while you're healthy and young would imply exactly that unless you're exceptionally wealthy and influential.<br /><br />There is part in Finnish psyche that makes us want to keep the status quo no matter what hence hiring servants, flailing wads of money around, speaking loudly in public and all that would break it and thus it would be considered rude and inconsiderate towards those who cannot have what you have.<br />Therefore because we Finns want to belong we instead call to MLL (Mannerheimin lastensuojeluliitto) to get our hired help, we don't go and directly hire someone from a job agency unless we are absolutely sure that we need one in permanent basis even if we could afford a one.<br /><br />In other words showing off (even mildly or by omission) is a bad thing that no "true adults" would do and therefore it should be left for juveniles.<br />So remember act "like an adult" and so your (house) work diligently, tirelessly and most importantly never ever complain that your work is hard. :)<br /><br />Hopefully above opens a bit about Finnish psyche about what should and should not even if younger generations don't mind so much about the above and to be honest not many in working life either but getting caught "breaking the rules" is what brings you trouble, so same is any other country I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6485618689828715147.post-65887606331163574122013-02-07T11:12:27.245+02:002013-02-07T11:12:27.245+02:00A friend of mine wanted to comment on this post bu...A friend of mine wanted to comment on this post but couldn't figure out how to leave a message here so instead she sent me a Facebook message. Here it is: <br /><br />Hi Danielle,<br />I did not know how to comment this on your blog. I love it and hope to see you and Emilia, after Xmas we will hopefully have some days off with Eemeli.<br />Hiring help, well my Mom's generation also says that they had to manage it alone like you said And my Mom keeps reminding me about it now when I am alone taking Eemeli to daycare and working, it is pretty tough when Janne is working outside the city all week. The fact is that my Dad was working in another city until I was 10 and we always had a part-time "half-day" Nanny One of my Nanny's was like a Granny, she and her husband took us to their cottage on an island during summertime and my parents really had some time off. People forget...I hope we still would have the system here nowadays and too bad it did not work with the au pair. Hoping to hear more.<br />MinnaDanielletrinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07563042859865543954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6485618689828715147.post-90438648121430956702013-02-07T11:08:38.220+02:002013-02-07T11:08:38.220+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Danielletrinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07563042859865543954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6485618689828715147.post-40767042440837773432013-02-03T22:52:23.367+02:002013-02-03T22:52:23.367+02:00Hi there! I'm a Trini living in Stockholm, I&#...Hi there! I'm a Trini living in Stockholm, I'd love to hook up sometime :) If you see this, e-mail your contact details to jennytk at g mail dot com please!Creephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16581969423626676657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6485618689828715147.post-47860178441244182632013-01-18T14:20:53.950+02:002013-01-18T14:20:53.950+02:00I couldn't agree with you more. My mother told...I couldn't agree with you more. My mother told me very early in life that u can't be all things to all people in your household (mother, wife, lover, cook, cleaner, gardener, nurse, professional, etc) so choose which is most important to me and hire good help for the rest. Well written. Anya Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14551480557115046525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6485618689828715147.post-19810958463949050122013-01-18T13:38:50.168+02:002013-01-18T13:38:50.168+02:00I couldn't agree with you more. My mother told...I couldn't agree with you more. My mother told me very early in life that you can't be all things to all people (mother, wife, cleaner, gardener, busy executive etc) so choose what's most important to you very early, and hire help to take care of the rest. Anya Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14551480557115046525noreply@blogger.com